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  • deafTunes123
    08-02 06:54 AM
    I don't think that search is giving the accurate info. I know at least 10 Amway guys by name in my neighbor hood (you can guess how many... many... times I've been tortured) and none of their names is appearing. May be it is giving the names of those silver or what ever their hierarchy is.

    Its a good info to catch and hopefully its useful.

    Guys! This is getting interesting. Guess what I found!! Now you can find out the names of your local friendly Amway Independent Business owners!!!

    Go to https://www.amway.com/Shop/Registration/CustomerRegistration.aspx?Country=US

    Scroll down to the section titled "Benefits of Being Affiliated with an Independent Business Owner", select "Show me a list of IBOs in my area that I can select from".... put your zip code and voila!!!!

    I put my own zipcode 94536, and most of the names are desi. Confirms my suspicion that there are more desi's sucked into this than........

    Now post what you find in your area!





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  • ebizash
    07-21 05:04 PM
    i am not convinced u lost 20k in it? my roommate was a quikster guy, he never forced anyone., he would receive all this Junk stuff to sell, after 1 year he said enough and stopped, i dont think its madatory to buy stuff, its all about the new member add and comissions with it that prompts them to catch new desis.

    For good sake desis, dont get your wifes and Kids involved in it, i ,met a desi in Target and asked him, dont u feel annoyed getting turned down with rude behaviours, ( he was with wife trying to get me to buy)

    he said NO? WHY? after all its all about Money? hear it


    People can loose a lot of money in this "business"... 20K in 4 years is petty... literally.

    Once you achieve some level in this business, your "uplines" start pestering you to do 300PV every month instead of 100PV. Each PV is about $2.50 + tax + Shipping so 300PV = $800 a month. Most of this $800 stuff is at least with 300% markup and many of the things that we didn't need. So even if we take $200 as waste out of $800, in 4 years, I lost $200x12x4 = $9,600

    Now, off course no one puts a gun to your head to buy 300PV but the pressure is nothing less than that. Its very hard to explain just like hard to explain the Niagara Falls experience (this example I have used many times while contacting people).


    Now comes the suckiest part - Tapes, Books, Meetings, Conferences.

    Each year there are 4 "conferences" over 4 different weekends. Each ticket costs about $125 and the hotel costs another $150. For a couple it comes to $6,400 for 4 years

    Every week there is a "Open" meeting which costs $4 per person so for a couple it amounts to $1,664 for 4 years

    You "have" to buy (again the pressure) 5 CDs ($8.50 each) and 2 books (~$20 each) every month. This amounts to another $4,000.

    Now since it is a pyramid kind of structure, you will not have your entire team in one location or region. We had driven to "help" our group from MN to NY and PA, and MI at least 6-8 times and within northwest at least 20-25 times. This at least amounts to another $4,000

    finally, you are "encouraged" to provide samples to new contacts, new team members so that they get hooked up to "Amway" products. Another $2,000.

    So I am sure we lost much more than 20K just in hard cash without even counting the opportunity cost of all that time wasted. To be fair though, we are still receiving monthly bonus checks 3 years later which range from $100 to $300 depending on how much stuff is bought by the people who were in our group and who are still buying Amway products.

    I don't know why I am explaining all this to you but I know many people who have never been in Amway think that you can not lose money in Amway. In fact it is totally opposite, you can lose your shirt in this "business"..





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  • NolaIndian32
    09-22 03:55 PM
    Hi Samay,

    I would like to maintain my current H1b status (2nd three-year extension period; I have the approval notice but the visa is not stamped in my passport). I would like to travel to India and return using the Advance Parole document with just my H1b extension approval notice (only first H1b is stamped in the passport).

    1. Can I do this?
    2. Will this change my status from H1b to AOS? When I return from my visit to India, I would like to continue working on my H1b with my current employer. I have not applied for the EAD.

    Please advise.

    Thanks so much!





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  • vamsi_poondla
    02-14 12:51 PM
    Watch and see how fast the Michigan government will start issuing DL to H1B holders and to those who has pending I-485.

    http://www.aclumich.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=567
    https://www.aclumich.org/pdf/licensecomplaint.pdf

    A new ruling is different than challenging an existing rule. So, we cannot compare with DL Issue. Name checks, I don't think it is logical. But at the same time, it is not with sinister design as well. Latest memo doesnt admit that they introduced this to screw us. It happened consequentially due to delays, less funding allocation and other processing slack. (BTW, I think MI IV Leadership team did a wonderful job for the DL Issue.)



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  • royus77
    06-28 05:14 PM
    right, and the worry (as is also noted in the AILA complaint that someone posted earlier) is that USCIS can consider the update from DOS to be the 'updated' Visa Bulletin.

    There is nothing that prevents DOS from issuing a visa bulletin at any time and making it effective then-and-there. AILA has raised concerns with this, that it is a problematic thing to do, but it seems to be well within the law. I dont think there is a chance of a lawsuit here.


    Even If there is a law suit by AILA and negotiations .bla bla ...if they decide to go for a interm memo , the first victims will be us . AILA will collect money one more time and they will be happy ...





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  • bfadlia
    02-15 05:58 PM
    Can't you understand the meaning of fair shot and equality ? Let people apply in FIFO . Don't tell me what US wants ? No one has a clear idea of it.and suddenly people like you for your personal interests have started opposing IV's skill based initiative because your dates moved a little ahead and supporting existing discriminatory laws. What will happen when they retrogress again to 1999 next month ? What will be your stand then? Did you come to IV rally ? Probably not because you think of your personal interest and have nothing to do with the big picture.

    No. I can't understand fairshot and equality when major bodyshops from a certain nationality flood the market here with people from that certain nationality, u keep ignoring that and coming back to the stupid suggestion that it's only because u have more talent
    suit urself, anyone who argues with you reasonably, tell them they are wrong and make assumptions about their motives and insult and alienate more members of your organization
    good luck



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  • JazzByTheBay
    12-13 04:34 PM
    If someone from country X, Y, or Z comes in on that same quota, that's OK - but we can't accept folks from countries A, B and C??

    jazz

    Let's assume that it can not be fought within US Constitutional framework then do we have a choice to bring this to international court level? Can US prove that keeping per country immigration quota for EB categories is not a discrimination but a policy to protect its citizens or per say to protect its industry/economy?





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  • snathan
    01-22 04:06 PM
    No need to regret. There are plenty of opportunities in India for right people. Salary is on par with USA.

    Then please pack your bags and leave the country in the next flight.



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  • jonty_11
    06-28 05:30 PM
    ok u guys have forced me to pose the same question to my HR/Attorney...awaiting response.
    Attorney has said taht they are looking at this information, and wil get back to us soon!!!..Looks like it is a cause of concern...This sucks.!!!





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  • nixstor
    09-23 02:17 PM
    Please keep sending those emails. IV is nothing but I + WE

    Those of you who have homes and think this is unfair to you, I can understand your vantage point of being excluded. But there is a clear indirect consequence of such a legislation. I would say, Who ever bought the home bought the home with an intention of making US their permanent home. Some one else would say, I know guys who bought 2 homes. Its all greed and nothing else. So lets not go there.

    None of them knew that FNM & FRE will be gobbled up by Fed, Lehman will go under after 158 years, AIG will be owned 80% by the gov and ML would be sucked up for peanuts. If they had a slightest inkling they would not have bought a home.

    The problem is we have a glut of homes on the market. There are a bunch of people who can invest but do not want to because of the uncertainty they are facing. No doubt every one has uncertainty. Imagine a law maker's perspective (not mine or IV's) on exempting some one from the numerical limits, if he/she does not help reduce the number of houses by 1. All that matters at the negotiating table is whether this helps the housing markets or not.

    As some one said, this is not the senate/house floor. If such legislation were to be enacted congress will design a lot of preconditions to be met. (legal and financial) We cannot dilute the message to start with. There was a good amount of discussion about this "already own a home" issue before the whole thing appeared on the website. Its in our best interest we start from here.

    Its easy to sit down here and write what is fair and what is unfair. What really matters in the end is whether we can sell our pitch and make it palatable to lawmakers. Please stop enumerating all the unfair events in the EB immigration process. It just does not get any where.

    If you don't like the idea thats fine. But please refrain from posting nasty and dirty comments on my profile. Not that I care about reputation, The usage of such words is totally unasked for.



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  • pnara2
    01-05 06:05 PM
    Yes, this discussion is not needed on here! Let us focus on immigration related persistent issues!





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  • BharatPremi
    12-14 12:51 PM
    If they change the current law to favor Indians, then it will be disciminatory to other nationals. Think the other way..

    You may be almost 100% right and everybody is trying to take the sense out of this. Lazy*and Mark almost have given the proof that "We can't do this"..

    Good, we will not have a problem if we get assured about this 100%.

    But one thing I do not understand is your interpretation (in quots)... If at all anything we are asking is what "Remove Per Country based ceilings" but how can somebody with high skill translate that into what you quoted?

    If that happens, Indians will be benefited , yes that is not a favor, and if at all for the sake of argument even if we "tag" the word "favored"...Chinese,Mexicans,Philipinos will also be "favored".. So if they remove this ceiling then in reality it would be a "Equal ground for every national" And in that nobody can argue that "It is discriminatory to other nationals".



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  • samay
    07-23 08:18 AM
    Dear Attorney,

    I was hoping you could help or answer this question.

    My GC was approved last month after a very long wait time. Currently I am working for company B on EAD (not the GC filing employer). The question I had was can I continue to work for company B on a part time basis and join company A (GC filling employer).

    Company A has a 9 month probation period I am worried if i quiet company B and company A fire me later then I will be with out job.

    So I can work for company A (GC filing employer) full time and at the same time work part time with company B.

    So this way if company A does fire me during probation period I continue with company B on full time basis.

    Is this ok will it come to haunt me when I file for citizenship?

    Thanks

    Dev.

    Go ahead.





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  • sush
    07-10 12:42 PM
    excellent move.
    hope you well buddy.



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  • breddy2000
    09-04 12:57 PM
    Sreedhar,

    I agree with your comments.

    In India, politics have been used to amass money, wealth and YSR has used his position for killings, land grabbing, scams etc.,

    Make money the right way, no one stops any one. Where is the end to corrupt means? Yesterday YSR, today his Son. The biggest problem today India is facing is, people involved in policy making deeply submerged in corruption.

    There should not be an excuse on comparison. If today we don�t condemn, tomorrow we will be affected. And being here we have to set an example to other people out there in India, living and working in USA is an experience that can�t be valued on paper.


    True Facts have Guts to reveal yourself..... We know that you have compromised on personal details about IV members....This is insane I say.....





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  • breddy2000
    09-04 12:21 PM
    It is not good to reveal the real name of the person. Admin please check your password is not misusing by insider friends.
    It is a shame for IV.

    Pappu,
    You should have guts to reveal the ID of this Insider who is misusing his power to expose personal details of IV members.....Is this what what you mean maintaining confidential information of Individual members????



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  • imneedy
    03-20 10:53 AM
    Well there is no reason to say person who started this thread is buying labor.

    Can you prove that you got an offer for substitute labor and you rejected it?

    :o

    If you have a valid point, why don't you start a new thread where people can report those users who post question on substitution. We will see if that forum gets popular.

    It is distracting to people who came to look for answers based on title of this post. Good luck at mud slinging!!

    ......because you are using labor substitution.

    At this time nobody can do anything legally against people who are using labor substitution and employers who are secretly selling labor substitution.

    This substitution is increasing backlogs, is unfair to people waiting in line, encourages employer exploitation since they use it as an incentive to woo employees and then exploit them, 'selling' is illegal but one must complain against the employer and the employee for DOL to act.

    Lawyers are part of this scam. I have read in some posts that even AILA opposed when labor substitution was being ended. It is a lost business opportunity for their lawyer members!!

    I have pointed several labor substitution members on the forums in the past. some of them were never found on the forum since they feared being caught. They must have changed their ID or ran away. So until a law is passed for banning it, such 'trade' that hurts our interests will continue.

    Good that you guys are only buying labor certifications. There is no 'legal' process to buy greencards directly from employers yet!!





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  • reedandbamboo
    09-17 11:48 AM
    I am one of those who filed on March 28, 2005 under the older labor cert process and then converted and was approved under PERM later that year.


    I know that many applied on March 05 just the week before Perm was going to start through the normal process and not RIR. I remember there was a way that they could abandon that application and apply thorugh the PERM process but keep their date. I know a friend of mine who did it. All these numbers suggested above makes sense only after we pass March 05.





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  • reddy77
    07-03 11:34 PM
    Digged , Thanks admins for all these, I really appreciate your hardwork. I want to call senator/Rep in PA, Any contacts of them..





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    ItIsNotFunny
    06-15 09:33 AM
    To be honest, I do agree that the US needs qualified people with skillsets. The real question is "Are the people from the desi consulting companies the real qualified lot ? " Just to get my background details out of the way. I am a new member, from India ofcourse, and I have recently applied for my citizenship. Now with this huge deluge of immigrants, especially from the desi consulting companies, I feel that my quality of life is getting adversely impacted. Do not rush to conclusions that I am anti Indian or anti immigrant. 12 years back when I first got my H1 visa, the requirements to qualify were strict. Staffing companies to a decent extent followed rules and tried to get the best and the brightest. Once the dot com boom started, people from all walks of life entered IT. This was true of not just the Indians but also of people in the US. Soon after the bust, the value proposition from these staffing companies was simply low cost. This is not to blame the staffing companies. They behaved in an economically rational way.

    Consider this scenario. If you run a consulting company, wouldn't you try to maximize your profits by staffing people in projects at the least cost ? This is econmically rational. You wouldn't worry much about the quality of the deliverables and all you would care is to dump as many bodies as possible at the client site or offshore and get the maximum bang for the buck.

    In this scenario, how is it feasible to expect immigrational justice when the bodies themselves dont provide exceptional talent and skills but simply offer low cost ? Now you would be tempted to bring in the analogous case of illegal low skilled immigrants. Remember they are just that - low skilled workers. They dont "steal" the jobs of high skilled workers. But this dumping of IT workforce has completely brought down the standard of living of the IT workers here. To be honest, those who get green cards today would feel the same way five years from now when the next wave of so called "skilled IT immigrants" offer even lower wages and destroy the quality of life.

    In summary, this retrogression is good in a way. The truly best and the brightest would still be employed until their turn for adjournment comes in. Only the weak are currently scared of the delays. I went through the same torrid GC phase after the tech meltdown in 2001. I was not worried of my job then but many people whom I knew got clobbered and were forced to leave. This is the darwinian flush and it will take its toll. Trust me this the bitter truth. If you people still consider that all the people on H1/L1 are part of the best and the brightest, they are WRONG. Only a small % (probably 20%) are the true best and the brightest and a good 50% will be flushed out. Sorry to say this and hey give me the red dots.

    Just because you got lucky and got your GC sooner doesn't mean others are idiot.



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